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« Reply #30 on: Feb 10th, 2004, 02:27am »

So, what do you think about that? Good, Bad?
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« Reply #31 on: Feb 11th, 2004, 3:19pm »

At first glance it seems wrong, but then I'm not sure. No culture is perfect. Most are far from it. And as you've said here earlier, it's unlikely a culture will completely disappear due to globalisation, just intergrate the new elements, so cultures won't be completely destroyed by whichever new one comes along. Theoretically, the spread of culture through globalisation could potentially be a good thing, if all the good aspects of all cultures come together. Of course, the opposite could happen too.
I know that some people argue that messing around with other cultures is wrong because they want to keep them exactly how they are - exotic, mysterious - as tourist attractions, i.e. make some distant (to them) cultures into exhibits in some kind of bizarre cultural 'zoo', which to me just sounds rather insulting to those cultures.

So I'm undecided. I'll have to wait and see. I do know that the economical benefits are worth-while though.
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« Reply #32 on: Feb 12th, 2004, 01:29am »

I heard about a cultural exchange between Germany and Russia. What they do is, they send over art from Germany(one year) over to Russia for an exibition. And the other way the next year. It seemed to have some good results. I thought this was very good considering the prejudices that each country had toward eachother (mainly because of WW2). And overall a great way to learn abouth other people, cultures and keep good relations.
Eventhough, a culture may not extinguish because of globalisation, it is still as risk. Its the way things are done, that creates uncertainty, maybe.
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« Reply #33 on: Feb 12th, 2004, 8:50pm »

I never heard of that. Certainly is a good way of overcoming old rivalries and getting to know one-another. Perhaps that's a benefit of globilisation; not total cultural annihilation, but exchange? I know that although American culture has penetrated most areas of the world to some extent, it hasn't avoided being influenced itself. Look at things like the areas they call 'China Town'...
And Britain. Britain once covered 25% of the entire planet's population, heavily influencing foreign cultures. Imperialism was one of the first examples of globilisation. Yet in her retreat, she took many aspects of the cultures of the territories she controlled with her borders. Now it's not unusual to walk down the street and see an Indian restaurant, or even a Chinese restaurant, as frequently as a McDonalds or a local pub.
America can't be adapting to all these new markets without being changed herself in some way, surely?
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« Reply #34 on: Feb 14th, 2004, 04:54am »

Well that is true to an extent isn't it. But when you look at the US education system, and the socitey, they are still very insular. Things like China town, are the American version of China town. The American versions of Indian restaurants.
This may not be fair to the actual foreign owners of the shop, but I believe this is how US citizens view other cultures in their country. Not as their own culture, but part of American culture. People who have assimilated into the American culture, and who are proud of it.

It is of course good that there are chinese restaurants and such, but still the American attitude is dangerous. That is why they think they can go ahead and invade countries, because people would be happy to assimilate the western or US way of life.
Perhaps not to such an exteme colonial extent, but the actual deep down subconscious feeling of people being not very happy with their way of life and can prospure and be happy in ours. Which of course may be good sometimes, but it isn't an atitude of, people coming to prospure with their culture, thanx partly to ours.

That should be the attitude. Helping eachother to prosper and to deepen their culture through exchange(not only resources, but also cultural). IF each country can have a strong and supportive education system and society, then people won't have to get carried away with other cultures, whcih may be dangerous for them and their culture.

I suppose this comes down to good leadership doesn't it?
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« Reply #35 on: Feb 14th, 2004, 11:22pm »

I don't think leaders have much to do with culture. It's there job to make sure no-one is persecuted for their origins, surely, but not how resistant to change a culture is.
China, for instance, has a deep-rooted culture. They still celebrate their countless traditions, have kept their own calendar despite the simplicity of changing it to conform with ours, they stick with their traditional foods so far as I'm aware... and, the only person I know with roots in China still follows these cultural traditions, 'cept maybe the calander and the language (though he speaks Chinese too).
Yet here in Britain, there are folks who actually pretend they are American. I don't know whether the language barrier makes them seem closer or something, but people somehow develop American accents, rarely eat anything but fast food, and watch goodness-knows how many American movies and TV shows.
Perhaps some cultures are just more resistant than others?
Although in regards to people moving to other countries, it's probably got a lot more to do with just fitting in and settling down than anything else.
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« Reply #36 on: Feb 15th, 2004, 01:30am »

Well chinese rule has always been very strict on cultural exchange. So maybe it does in a way have to do with rulership. I'm not suggesting though, strict rejection of cultural propagation be used.

I still think leadership can effect education and and some other things like that, but I suppose, its up to the people of the country to decide how strong their cultural identity is. Becase most of the time, people won't just listen to their prime minister and do everything he says on these matters of cultural identity and exchange, eventhough he has the power to expose people to it.

So leadership has the power to expose and educate people about other cultures, but essentially te media, books, people's thinking(and hopefully dialogue) will determine how people feel about it.....?
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« Reply #37 on: Feb 21st, 2004, 10:37pm »

I reckon that's about right. Though, as you brought it up (perhaps with different intention, but you brought it up all the same wink), if the media is responsible for a substancial amount of what cultures are exposed to, if the government has control of the media... the government can possibly mould it, to try and effect changes in a culture that way?
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« Reply #38 on: Feb 22nd, 2004, 12:50am »

hmm, I see your point.

Well maybe, I don't really think that the government has a lot of power to restrict cultural information in this democratic country(or yours). People are going to know about it, and be angry smiley.

So (this may be contradicting what I last said tongue) its probably more important if the government nurture the educated point of view in literature, movies, media to support national identity.
For example, Australia has quite a weak movie industry, and people are blaiming this weak industry(or the causes for its weaknesses) for our Americanisation and our lack of 'Australianism'. For some reaon our media is infatuated with the US not only in magazines etc but obviously movies, and books(well, to an extent, depending on the books I suppose). We have very little of this in favour of Australian identity, or rather little in comparison to our American culture glorification.
To be honest I have little idea of what 'Australian identity' is.

So maybe this isn't a question for you, but how do we realise our national identity? Once we do this, we can talk about it(as such) in literature, media, movies.
IF we do, then our culture won't be so fragile and vulnerable to the negative effects of globalisation.

But, how, what?
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« Reply #39 on: Feb 22nd, 2004, 5:00pm »

Maybe the fact that both Australia and America were formed in such similar ways (empty countries with natives who didn't particularly like European invaders, and the prospect of being so far from home with little food or medicine) means that Australia is destined to share American culture? And, because Australia didn't 'fight for liberty', America will be the overwhelming culture?
Although, if movies are anything to go by, everyone here should be thinking of Australians as croc wrestlers, with croc skin boots and clothes, driving around the desert... cheesy
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« Reply #40 on: Feb 23rd, 2004, 03:35am »

heh, well I can asure that I am not that smiley


Perhaps that theory may be so, but on the other hand, Australians don't particularly like Americans.
We don't have a free trade agrement yet, and our two countries are less connected then the UK and ourselves.
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« Reply #41 on: Feb 23rd, 2004, 11:03pm »

Well then, I dunno.
I can't actually figure out what makes American culture so easy to spread besides their economic empire. In fact, I can't figure out what American culture is... I've been thinking what it is that's unique about them; inside of America, they have their Independence day stuff. But what's for the outside world that's so special? I can't actually pin anything specific beyond violence on their culture... oh, capitalism I suppose.
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« Reply #42 on: Feb 29th, 2004, 4:36pm »

Maybe its the sort of laziness that draws people in.

You bring up the independance day thing. Thats intersting how after that battle, they put it in their constitution that any citizen had the rights to bear arms. From their that anger based attitude probably has fueled a lot of idolisation. Worshipping mentors of American society or culture. Being so proud of finding independance, "Being American" perhaps(this is only theory) prompted self worship.
When I say 'self' I mean the American self and evidentally not the 'self' self. They tend to neglect their own person and humanity, thus this lack f self-awareness and immense jingoism has fueled the whole 'culture'.
Perhaps its our laziness that has attracted us to, "The Americans don't really have to think about life or themselves. They take the fun, easy way out and idolise Americans and have a violent, 'cool' weapon focal society. They are a hugely siccessful nation in terms of size, power and economics, perhaps we should adopt their 'ideology'"


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« Reply #43 on: Feb 29th, 2004, 4:57pm »

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« Reply #44 on: Mar 1st, 2004, 8:59pm »

It's true, they always have something to hate. Whether it be the British, Native Americans, Germans or terrorists, they always have something they'd like to point a gun at. The quality and durability of a building depends on its foundations. Perhaps being founded by bloodshed and violence isn't the best way to build a culture...

And yes, laziness is a good thing to pin on American culture, I suppose. I don't recall another society that promotes 'fast food', promiscuity, violence and whatever 'cool' originally meant. I suppose that's another thing on the list, 'cool'.
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