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« Reply #30 on: Apr 8th, 2004, 12:09am »

There probably are a multitude of things that can be done.
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« Reply #31 on: Apr 13th, 2004, 04:14am »

But I beleive that better education is the key to solving so many of society's problems and conflicts all over the world, for example Israel and Palestine conflict. You would be killing two birds (or, rather, many) with the one stone, so to speak.
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« Reply #32 on: Apr 14th, 2004, 5:28pm »

I don't believe I remember saying 'eductation won't work, let's never change the current system'. I believe I said that it isn't the only factor.
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« Reply #33 on: Apr 15th, 2004, 02:52am »

Sorry, I must have misunderstood. But even though other factors do come into play, it is the most important.
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« Reply #34 on: Apr 21st, 2004, 07:47am »

Also it depends on the situation. For some people, great religious influence in their lives causes them to believe any dogmatic propagation of hate. Perhaps if the people were more educated they would not cling to radical religion.
Religion can be a very solid source of positivity substanance. Which is another thing that could aid the situation.... huh
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« Reply #35 on: Apr 21st, 2004, 11:51pm »

Of course, religion is a good thing. It gives our lives a basis. But any religion in an extreme form has a negative effect. So religion is both partial problem and partial solution in certain cases(?).
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« Reply #36 on: Apr 22nd, 2004, 06:40am »

That is true. But again, I think radical religion stems from lack of education, poverty, bad treatment....?
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« Reply #37 on: Apr 23rd, 2004, 9:10pm »

Perhaps, because we don't really find radical christian fanatics from western nations like America and Britain who blow up stuff in Iran. But then again, Osama bin Laden is a multi-billionaire, and his family always has been rich, so to suggest that he did not recieve a good education is foolish. And his father wasn't a west-hating fanatic: he was the principal sponsor of the Williams formula-one team. The cars used to have "Bin Laden Oil" on the side.
So perhaps it is more through the influence of social groups that these fanatics arise, rather than parental influence, or lack of education.

I kind of just contraditced what I was saying on previous posts, didn't I?
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« Reply #38 on: Apr 28th, 2004, 07:21am »

Yes, but its true.

Bin-Laden is a case of an educated person going against another evil regime. But his motives a twisted and I agree with you with the social thing.
If you look at the education in Israel I wouldn't really call that great education.
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« Reply #39 on: Apr 30th, 2004, 06:04am »

Maybe not for the Palestinians, but the Jews get as good an education as they would in America, or any other developed nation, although I'm sure most of the educators would be biased in some way against the Arabs.
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« Reply #40 on: May 3rd, 2004, 03:04am »

Yes, right.

I suppose when religion gets mixed with political power it can become very dangerous.
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« Reply #41 on: May 7th, 2004, 05:02am »

I'll say! Look at how the Taliban wrecked Afghanistan, or another of a multitude of historical examples.
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« Reply #42 on: May 26th, 2004, 08:31am »

Well, yeh, that's radical religion. Although I'm not sure it's that radical, because considering how the US have pressured them based upon their self-righteous christian ideals.


But anyway, the fact of the matter is that killing and rape etc in most senses stem from a tattered society. A society where dialogue, a source for strong relationships, understanding, binding agrements, is ignored and because of this, stems many damaged people, and families and thus society. It all inter-relates.

Anger --> No dialogue --> self-righteousness --> damaged families --> damdaged communities --> goes back to damaged people.
The fact that some people have no education and food stems from the fact that dialogue has been ignored to distribute wealth and spark initiative in people and in societies.

The tranformation of one person thus, leeds to transformation of a family, a community, a nation, and humanity.
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« Reply #43 on: Nov 26th, 2004, 5:44pm »

mmm, this is true. All social change comes back to the individual.
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